Legal marijuana vote raises possibility of weed tourism

Hit the slopes - and then a bong?
Marijuana legalization votes this week in Colorado and Washington state don't just set up an epic state-federal showdown on drug law for residents. The measures also open the door for marijuana tourism.
Both marijuana measures make marijuana possession in small amounts OK for all adults over 21 - not just state residents but visitors, too. Tourists may not be able to pack their bowls along with their bags, but as long as out-of-state tourists purchase and use the drug while in Colorado or Washington, they wouldn't violate the marijuana measures.
Of course, that's assuming the recreational marijuana measures take effect at all. That was very much in doubt Friday as the states awaited word on possible lawsuits from the U.S. Department of Justice asserting federal supremacy over drug law.
So the future of marijuana tourism in Colorado and Washington is hazy. But that hasn't stopped rampant speculation, especially in Colorado, where tourism is the No. 2 industry thanks to the Rocky Mountains and a vibrant ski industry.
The day after Colorado approved recreational marijuana by a wide margin, the headline in the Aspen Times asked, "Aspendam?" referring to Amsterdam's marijuana cafes.
Colorado's tourism director, Al White, tried to downplay the prospect of a new marijuana tourism boom.
"It won't be as big a deal as either side hopes or fears," White said.
Maybe not. But many are asking about marijuana tourism.
Ski resorts are "certainly watching it closely," said Jennifer Rudolph of Colorado Ski Country USA, a trade association that represents 21 Colorado resorts.
Any plans for an adults-only après lounge where skiers could get more than an Irish coffee to numb their aches?
"There's a lot that remains to be seen," Rudolph said with a chuckle. "I guess you could say we're waiting for the smoke to clear."
The Colorado counties where big ski resorts are located seem to have made up their minds. The marijuana measure passed by overwhelming margins, with more support than in less visited areas.
The home county of Aspen approved the marijuana measure more than 3-to-1. More than two-thirds approved marijuana in the home county of Colorado's largest ski resort, Vail. The home county of Telluride ski resort gave marijuana legalization its most lopsided victory, nearly 8 in 10 favoring the measure.
"Some folks might come to Colorado to enjoy some marijuana as will be their right. So what?" said Betty Aldworth, advocacy director for the Colorado marijuana campaign.
Washington state already sees a version of marijuana tourism.
Every summer on the shores of the Puget Sound, Seattle is host to "Hempfest," which according to organizers attracted around 250,000 people over three days this year. For those three days, people are largely left alone to smoke publically at a local park, even as police stand by.
"People travel to Seattle from other states and countries to attend Seattle Hempfest every year to experience the limited freedom that happens at the event," said executive director Vivian McPeak. "It's reasonable to assume that people will travel to Washington assuming that the federal government doesn't interfere."
McPeak draw parallels to Amsterdam where an annual "Cannabis Cup" attracts tourists from all over the world and Vancouver, British Columbia, which has lax marijuana rules that have borne marijuana cafes drawing travelers.
Amsterdam's marijuana tourism is in a hazy spot these days, though. The incoming Dutch government suggested a national "weed pass" that would have been available only to residents and that would have effectively banned tourists from Amsterdam's marijuana cafes. The "weed pass" idea was scrapped, but under a provisional governing pact unveiled last week, Dutch cities can bar foreigners from weed shops if they choose.
In Denver, some feared that the Colorado marijuana vote could deter tourists, not to mention business visitors.
"Colorado's brand will be damaged, and we may attract fewer conventions and see a decline in leisure travel," Visit Denver CEO Richard Scharf said in a statement before the vote.
Colorado's governor opposed the measure but said after its passage that he didn't envision marijuana tourism materializing.
"I don't think that's going to happen," Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper said. "They're going to flock here to buy marijuana as if they're going to take it back? On an airplane? That seems unlikely to me."
Colorado's measure specifically bans public use of the drug. But guidelines for commercial sales are still to be worked out. The state's 536 medical marijuana dispensaries are banned from allowing on-site consumption, but lawmakers could set different rules for recreational marijuana shops.
Marijuana backers downplayed the impact on tourism. Aldworth pointed out that pot-smoking tourists wouldn't exactly be new. Colorado ski slopes already are dotted with "smoke shacks," old mining cabins that have been illicitly repurposed as places to smoke pot out of the cold. And the ski resort town of Breckenridge dropped criminal penalties for marijuana use two years ago.
"Some folks come to Colorado and enjoy some marijuana while they are here today," Aldworth said.
The sheriff of the county including Aspen was sanguine about the prospects of pot-smoking visitors.
"For me, it's going to be live and let live. If people want to come to Colorado because pot is legal - and that's the sole reason - it's up to them," Pitkin County Sheriff Joe DiSalvo told The Aspen Times. "I am not the lifestyle police."
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Associated Press reporter Manuel Valdes in Seattle contributed to this report.
Marijuana legalization votes this week in Colorado and Washington state don't just set up an epic state-federal showdown on drug law for residents. The measures also open the door for marijuana tourism.
Both marijuana measures make marijuana possession in small amounts OK for all adults over 21 - not just state residents but visitors, too. Tourists may not be able to pack their bowls along with their bags, but as long as out-of-state tourists purchase and use the drug while in Colorado or Washington, they wouldn't violate the marijuana measures.
Of course, that's assuming the recreational marijuana measures take effect at all. That was very much in doubt Friday as the states awaited word on possible lawsuits from the U.S. Department of Justice asserting federal supremacy over drug law.
So the future of marijuana tourism in Colorado and Washington is hazy. But that hasn't stopped rampant speculation, especially in Colorado, where tourism is the No. 2 industry thanks to the Rocky Mountains and a vibrant ski industry.
The day after Colorado approved recreational marijuana by a wide margin, the headline in the Aspen Times asked, "Aspendam?" referring to Amsterdam's marijuana cafes.
Colorado's tourism director, Al White, tried to downplay the prospect of a new marijuana tourism boom.
"It won't be as big a deal as either side hopes or fears," White said.
Maybe not. But many are asking about marijuana tourism.
Ski resorts are "certainly watching it closely," said Jennifer Rudolph of Colorado Ski Country USA, a trade association that represents 21 Colorado resorts.
Any plans for an adults-only après lounge where skiers could get more than an Irish coffee to numb their aches?
"There's a lot that remains to be seen," Rudolph said with a chuckle. "I guess you could say we're waiting for the smoke to clear."
The Colorado counties where big ski resorts are located seem to have made up their minds. The marijuana measure passed by overwhelming margins, with more support than in less visited areas.
The home county of Aspen approved the marijuana measure more than 3-to-1. More than two-thirds approved marijuana in the home county of Colorado's largest ski resort, Vail. The home county of Telluride ski resort gave marijuana legalization its most lopsided victory, nearly 8 in 10 favoring the measure.
"Some folks might come to Colorado to enjoy some marijuana as will be their right. So what?" said Betty Aldworth, advocacy director for the Colorado marijuana campaign.
Washington state already sees a version of marijuana tourism.
Every summer on the shores of the Puget Sound, Seattle is host to "Hempfest," which according to organizers attracted around 250,000 people over three days this year. For those three days, people are largely left alone to smoke publically at a local park, even as police stand by.
"People travel to Seattle from other states and countries to attend Seattle Hempfest every year to experience the limited freedom that happens at the event," said executive director Vivian McPeak. "It's reasonable to assume that people will travel to Washington assuming that the federal government doesn't interfere."
McPeak draw parallels to Amsterdam where an annual "Cannabis Cup" attracts tourists from all over the world and Vancouver, British Columbia, which has lax marijuana rules that have borne marijuana cafes drawing travelers.
Amsterdam's marijuana tourism is in a hazy spot these days, though. The incoming Dutch government suggested a national "weed pass" that would have been available only to residents and that would have effectively banned tourists from Amsterdam's marijuana cafes. The "weed pass" idea was scrapped, but under a provisional governing pact unveiled last week, Dutch cities can bar foreigners from weed shops if they choose.
In Denver, some feared that the Colorado marijuana vote could deter tourists, not to mention business visitors.
"Colorado's brand will be damaged, and we may attract fewer conventions and see a decline in leisure travel," Visit Denver CEO Richard Scharf said in a statement before the vote.
Colorado's governor opposed the measure but said after its passage that he didn't envision marijuana tourism materializing.
"I don't think that's going to happen," Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper said. "They're going to flock here to buy marijuana as if they're going to take it back? On an airplane? That seems unlikely to me."
Colorado's measure specifically bans public use of the drug. But guidelines for commercial sales are still to be worked out. The state's 536 medical marijuana dispensaries are banned from allowing on-site consumption, but lawmakers could set different rules for recreational marijuana shops.
Marijuana backers downplayed the impact on tourism. Aldworth pointed out that pot-smoking tourists wouldn't exactly be new. Colorado ski slopes already are dotted with "smoke shacks," old mining cabins that have been illicitly repurposed as places to smoke pot out of the cold. And the ski resort town of Breckenridge dropped criminal penalties for marijuana use two years ago.
"Some folks come to Colorado and enjoy some marijuana while they are here today," Aldworth said.
The sheriff of the county including Aspen was sanguine about the prospects of pot-smoking visitors.
"For me, it's going to be live and let live. If people want to come to Colorado because pot is legal - and that's the sole reason - it's up to them," Pitkin County Sheriff Joe DiSalvo told The Aspen Times. "I am not the lifestyle police."
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Associated Press reporter Manuel Valdes in Seattle contributed to this report.
I am definitely for the "live and let live." It's a matter of choice, nothing else. However, I think the drug will be abused now more than ever and will resonate negatively in the lives of people who don't like marijuana.
 @Nora Abbotsby how so? I dont see how this would be any different than alcohol..
 @Here for the chips...  @Nora Abbotsby If you don't like weed then don't smoke it just like alot don't! That doesn't mean that we should push off the fact that it does have a lot of MEDICINAL values and truly does help people!Â
 @Nora Abbotsby Also there is no reason you shouldnt be able to use it in the privacy of your own home and I would also like you to look up DUI stats places with the MEDICAL program have less duis then states with out!!!
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 @Nora Abbotsby  @Shelia and the recreational use is people being ADULTS and being able to do what they wanna do! If you can drink a glass of wine to unwind why can't i smoke a bowl to relax? Believe it or not Nora when alcohol was first introduced back into society after the prohibition states went about it just as we have now! There were "MEDICAL" reasons people needed alcohol! The only difference is weed does actually have medicinal value and recreation value!Â
@Shelia Arrigo And the recreational use?
@Here for the chips... I gets tiring hearing the same argument over and over about alcohol. I understand the argument, truly. But why make the fire bigger?Â
The most harmful side effect involving pot is the legal consequence that can potentially ruin the future of a smoker. The drug itself is less harmful than prescription meds, alcohol, and cigarettes. Check the stats of how many are killed a year in DUI accidents. Check the estimated cost on taxpayers for all the dying people in hospitals due to alcoholism, lung cancer, emphysema, etc. THEN check the same stats (or any, for that matter) for pot smokers. Granted, those records aren't as extensive due to it being illegal, but it's positively not even close. The history of why it's illegal should be no secret by now, heck, it's on the History Channel. Keeping it Federally illegal is the gov's way of digging in their heels, not able to admit they were wrong... because of course, the government is never wrong.
Well of course the feds don't want it legalized and want to harass any state who has tried because then they won't keep getting fat pay checks from the makers of midol, tylenol,vicodin,aderol,ect ect.......GOD FORBID we use a medication that doesn't kill all of our organs a little bit each time we take them! When your medications have more side effects or side effects that are worse than what you are treating its time to consider the fact that what they are trying to sell you to make you "better" is only going to make you rely on their company more! Because don't worry once you start taking your medication to quit smoking and you end up with sucidal thoughts they have an anti depressant that will make it all better and when that starts attacking your kidneys you can always go on dialasis for the rest of your life and you will be ok! Or you ask for birth control ooooooh no problem they have that covered to have an IUD implanted and it will make you infertile...... you said birth control right? I thought that meant you NEVER wanted kids!!!! Or maybe you have stomach issues like nausea there is a medication for that too take it 2 times a day but be warned one of the side effects of that is nausea too! We all need to realize ONE thing just because your dr. says to take it doesnt mean its best for you! Your $15 co-pay is not what makes that Dr.s pay check its the multi billion dollar pharmacutical companies who pay him every time he/or she writes you a perscription!Â
 @Shelia Arrigo I definitely see your point but marijuana is not a cure for illness. I think this has a lot to do with deep rooted hatred for the drug and what it represents, freedom. The government has spent alot of money keeping the myths about the drug circulating but people are waking up and realizing that there are much more important things to deal with. If this plays well in CO and WS and other states start coming around, the feds wont have a choice but to decriminalize it..
 @Here for the chips...  @Shelia Arrigo I didn't mean it would "cure" anything(although if they would stop the war on it and allow half of that money to be spent on some research who knows it might) I should have clarified that! i think you got the jist of what I was trying to say! My whole point is that people use it as a medication and people use it for fun and those who use it as a medication have far less issues with their medications than those who are on 6 different pills to treat something like depression! (also for all of those who like to blow things out of proportion I realize 6 pills for depression is pretty out rageous) But once they had you one pill they want you hooked on them like candy! Anything and everything to keep you coming back! They've even come up with the pill form of meth and they had it to children with ADHD every single day then wonder why 1 in 4 women is hooked on meth?!? Could it have started when they were a kid and you gave them some ADEROL and allowed them to be dependent on it there whole life and then took it away like it was nothing when they were 18 because suddenly they were "healed" of there ADHD like it just goes away on your 18th birthday or something?!?!
amen !!!! specially to the sherriff of aspen!!! live and let live!!! the pot smokers arent hurting you leave em alone!!!!
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So tell me, since many like the idea of legalize pot, So you don't mind when your 12yr old  kid buys dope off his buddy's clinical depressive Mom because he scam her into thinking he's the same way. OR your teenage daughter wants to have a pot party - sleep over at your house, OR Granddad come over for the holidays and supplement the the booze with some bud?
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I'm not  a expert on this cap and certainly want to be but one things for sure, If we keep this up soon America will legalize any and everything under the sun! Yes people are going to smoke weed whether it legal or not but it only enhance the social sin american is so entranced in. Remember this one in the 60's (SEX-DRUGS-ROCK ROLL)?  Well soon it will be (SEX-DRUGS AND RAP) for everybody young and old. Your three year old kid  will be getting high with your eighty three yr old uncle. Instead of Ridlen  for the the kid's "attention deficit hyperactivity disorder", doctors will prescribe Acapulco Gold!!  In extra strength of course,, GOD HELP US!
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 @Carsautovision I don't know why people seem to believe that because it is now legal, people will suddenly be irrational about how they treat it, like giving it to kids. You keep imagining these "nightmare scenarios" that are just that, imaginary.
Stop thinking with your feelings and use your head. I don't see why it matters that more people will use it. And by "more" I mean the people who were too scared to try it before it was legal.
You can't stop your kids from doing everything. At least if they try it you won't have to worry about them ending up in a hospital somewhere because they were too drunk. A two to three hour high is nothing to cry over.Â
Social sin? Sorry man but the world doesn't operate on YOUR values. That is something every anti-marijuana supporter needs to understand.
I see your point and i would like to make one thing clear! There once was a prohibition on something else most use a a recreational "drug" if you will and now its legal its called ALCOHOL and the last time I checked my six year old wasn't pouring beer in her tea cups while playing tea party with her bears! Its not up to you or anyone else to govern what goes in my body and what doesn't and even if I did smoke weed its not like I would pass the joint to my kid!!! DUH! I think that goes with out saying and ALSO the 12yr old kid who buys it off the neighbor if she was gonna sell it to him now she was selling it to him before and that is up to that kids PARENTS to take care of! NOT YOU, NOT THE FEDS, NOT ANYONE ELSE! Do you see what is wrong with your theory here?!?! If the 12 yr old is out running the streets smoking weed (legal or not) HIS PARENTS need to take care of that and pay more attention to their kids! My parents warned me about drugs and I was an adult and had moved out on my own before I EVER smoked weed and thats as far as i will ever go! I don't think you truly understand how this whole thing works!
 @Carsautovision Umm you are fool if you like that your 12yo and teenage daughter cannot already get pot. Its actually simple close minded people like yourself that will bring this country down, not us.
 @Carsautovision so short sided!!!! so lets bann alcohol!!!! you nitwit! pot will not bring down the usa and goverment attempt at control doesnt work out either! funny you should mention ridelin oh its ok for the drug companies to make our kids into zombies with their synthetic poison but ohhh god save us from pot? thats pretty ignorant if you ask me!
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 @Carsautovision do you mind that your 12 yo kid can buy bud easier than a majority of adults already? Middle school kids can get it anyways, and hs kids have the best bud around. don't be fooling yourself thinking this makes it easier to get pot, just puts it above board
 @Carsautovision you can apply same thing to alchohol.  I dont think you want your daughter to have drunk party at your house.  If people are stupid nothing will stop them.  Legalizing marijuana is good, its a peaceful substance unlike alcohol which causing rage.
 @Carsautovision Your level of ignorance is ridiculous...
@Carsautovision It would be like cigarettes you can't do it til your eighteen or twenty-one. If you are a good role model then educate your kids, and have trust in them that they will make all the right choices, and choose the right friends. Pot is all around them, they have the choice like drinking and smoking cigarettes Hope for the best and hope they choose not to, because this issue is never going away, your one against too many that is for it. just saying.
 @Carsautovision You're an idiot haha
 @CG  @Carsautovision You my enemy are definitely the idiot. Why you are at it go slam some crack in your juggler vein.Â
 @Yousuck  @CG  @Carsautovision you smoke crack, not inject. you can inject, snort, or smoke coke
well i personally don't do drugs myself, but i like the idea of making drugs legal, i am pretty sure the states or the nation would enjoy the extra money, i think that they should just make it illegal to do drugs in public so some people don't complain about the smell of weed  or anything else, and they should set up strict permits to give to bars or somewhere to smoke and do drugsÂ
 @12313 I love the way you think!!!!!! If a crack head could be a crack head and walk into the store to buy said crack with out having to deal with the other crazy crack head on the corner selling it to him and could have a job while being a crack head and not do it at the job WELL THEN LIVE ON CRACK HEAD!!!! lol I honestly believe the crime rate would go down from it but thats just my thought on it! there would probably be a surge of people who try things just cuz its legal but most will be like me who wouldnt try crack if God him self was handing it to me and I think thats how most of us are!!!
i forsee a rise in ski accident deaths as stoned skiers kill trhenmselves in large numbers sadly they will take out innocent skiers with them.
 @jim quillen I promise you most of those people who are stoned up there now were stoned up there before! Just because its legal doesn't mean everyone is gonna run out and do it and the ones who already did are going to continue to do it just as they had before!!!
 @jim quillen I forsee many many failures in Jim's completely sober life. This being one of them.
1 stupid comment wasn't enough for you? Well, Jim, it seems all the advocates for legalizing it are much, MUCH smarter than you. Your comments are horribly structured and poorly thought out. Maybe you should reevaluate your ideals, because whatever YOU do clearly isn't working for you.
I am tired of the Feds controlling everything! I want our country back where we get to say what we want. Come on if it is voted on and passes how is it not legal. In this "great" country we now vote on something we want and it still does pass, or become legal? Then why the hell do we vote? Does the general public not see that we are no longer free and if we our it is legal because it has been voted on. Give us our d#*n rights back!
Weed tourism?...what's the big deal?...there are dozens of dry counties in the U.S. and people drive across county lines to buy a 12 pack and no one bats an eyelash...now I know you're going to say "but pot is illegal by federal law and federal law trumps state or county law"...well, using that logic, alcohol is legal by federal law then why is it illegal for some counties to sell it?...just another example of bureaucratic BS!!!
Special interest votes trump reality again. Proof pot heads are delusional. So they voted for Obama and get nothing in return.
 @bullzoid I voted Romney. I completely support the legalization of Marijuana. Its simple minded people like yourself bullzoid that turned people away from Romney. Your anti abortion, pro gun, jerbs!!! chants where just too shrill and annoying for Obama people to relate with. You lost the election for the rest of us.
While we are commenting on a article about legalization in two states, the real issue is really what are the rights of states vs the rights of the feds, and how do we as citizens effect change in federal laws. Also, currently, on the federal level, there is no allowance for grass roots initiatives. This must change.
If we had a means of challenging federal laws and regulations that we do not agree with the whole thing could be fixed. We cannot even sue to force the FDA and DEA to re-examine the scheduling of drugs. By the way, Marijuana is not a drug. THC in a refined or extracted substance is a drug. Marijuana is no different than willow bark in that sense. When you harvest willow bark and drink a tea made from it you are not breaking the laws about manufacturing an over the counter drug (aspirin), because you have not refined it. Cocaine, Heroin, even alcohol need to be refined. Marijuana does not. Perhaps the answer to the legalization question is to have someone mount a legal defense that the FDA and DEA have no authority to classify marijuana in any schedule because it is not a drug.
 @Sage McVahle Wow, I only look for intelligent arguments and not just the same old arguments I hear from both sides but this is a very good point.Â
I really don't understand why Marijuana is a Class 1 drug when drugs like Cocaine is ranked as a less dangerous drug. Why does anyone not point these things out? I never hear anyone make a single legitimate argument for why Marijuana should remain illegal.
Someone needs to take the argument to the government and truly question why they are going to such lengths to keep it illegal. They are lying to the public, spreading propaganda, and appealing to the anti-marijuana law supporters because they are the ones voting no.Â
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No one ever says anything about the fact that the government has no basis to keep it illegal while the supporters have every argument, including the biggest one: BECAUSE IT IS OUR FREE RIGHT, to legalize it. The US Government is supposed to be a fair, open-minded government for the people but they continue to only think about themselves individually. We all are affected negatively because of their selfishness. A simple matter of having the option to smoke marijuana is being so heavily contested because the government does nothing to dissipate the widespread ignorance of anti-marijuana supporters. Instead they support the big pharmaceutical companies and tobacco companies who don't want marijuana legal because it would lose them money.
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It's not the people it's the big guys in suits and uniforms who have the say so. Politicians, big businessmen, correctional facilities, and even cops have their reasons for voting no. Americans have rights in this country and it's about time the government respected that.
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@Sage McVahle it is a drug just as tobacco is a drug it contains cheemicaals that are classified as drugs pull your stoned head out druggie .
 @jim quillen  @Sage Funny--that "druggie" forms proper sentences, with punctuation, and for the most part proper spelling. Maybe you should take a toke and learn how to write English.
 Pitkin County Sheriff Joe DiSalvo told The Aspen Times. "I am not the lifestyle police." Wow for once a Sheriff with BALLs enough to speak out and understand we humans have a right to live the way we want to live as long as no one is in danger!! Kuddos, Ive never voted but if he runs for president he has my vote!!
ok now it legal..praise the lord...whats it going to do to the price...with gov taxes added on to an already steep priced product ...i dout it will be cheaper
you just grow your own!  DUA!!!!
 @cheaperweed I'd pay 20 bucks for a gram of PRIMO chronic.
Is that before or after a government tax..its 6% sales in ohio..might even be higher
 @cheaperweed Who cares if I can pay more and not take the chance of getting in trouble again count me in!
the price might go down.
So I will be able to legally smoke dope in Colorado and then flunk my pee test from my employer in Wisconsin. Â How is that gonna work?
 @User Well if you have to worry about it you probablyy shouldn't do it! DUH!
 @User Yep wont work for you .Maybe a transfer is in order
 @User quit the cheese factory in Wis,move to colorado,find a better paying job.Mail a picture of yourself smoking a joint and giving the finger to your former employer.Â
I wish.
LOL, hi neighbor, you are correct you will have to do all of your smoking at the beginning of your trip and then drink a lot to flush yourself